Sinopsis
Listen in each month to get ideas, inspiration and practical advice from people involved in music education, community music, music therapy and more. Learn how you can break down barriers to music, through communications, advocacy and inclusive practice. These conversations are hosted by Anita Holford at Music Education Works and Writing Services. www.writing-services.co.uk | www.musiceducationworks.org.uk
Episodios
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Episode 55: PODCAST [55] Musical flourishing through trauma-informed positive education – with Jason Goopy, Edith Cowan University, Western Australia
23/04/2026 Duración: 39minIn this episode, I talk with Jason Goopy, internationally recognised music educator, lecturer and researcher at Edith Cowan University near Perth in Western Australia. We discuss what happens when music education is shaped by trauma-informed positive education – and what it can teach us about what music education could and should be for.
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Episode 54: PODCAST [54] Music, wellbeing and emotional literacy – with Claire McColl, Pili Lopez and Tenley Martin, Dorset Music Service
17/03/2026 Duración: 47minIn this episode, I talk with Claire McColl and Pili Lopez from Dorset Music Service, and Tenley Martin from Leeds Beckett University, about their music and wellbeing training for primary school Emotional Literacy Support Assistants (ELSAs). It’s a great example of a music service thinking creatively about how to increase access to music, and raise awareness of its value.
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Episode 53: [53] Researching wellbeing for learning in the primary curriculum and teacher CPD - with Graeme Smith
15/01/2026 Duración: 16minIn this episode, I talk with Graeme Smith, a research consultant and former head of music and arts at Croydon Council, former chair of Music Mark, and member of Arts Council England's hubs advisory group. We discuss his research to test what works to improve pupils’ emotional wellbeing through the arts in primary schools; the impact and progression framework that he’s developed; and it’s other application, in work to address serious youth violence.
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Episode 52: [52] Reframing pathways into music careers, with Kate McBain and Dan Tsu
15/12/2025 Duración: 34minIn this podcast I’m talking with Kate McBain and Dan Tsu, researchers and authors of Industry Connect, a report commissioned by Youth Music. It explores the realities of moving from education into careers in music, particularly for young people from underrepresented backgrounds. We unpack the barriers mapped in the report and the solutions emerging from the work, including reframing how we talk about ‘the music industry’ ‘pathways’ and ‘pipelines’.
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Episode 51: [51] How to use music with intention in education and in life – with Sara Leila Sherman and Mort Sherman
14/10/2025 Duración: 37minIn this episode I’m talking with the authors of a new book called Resonant Minds – the transformative power of music, which explores how we can use the powerful response that our brain has to music, with intention – to feel more, focus better, connect deeper and lead more resonant lives. Sara Leila Sherman is a classical musician, educator and co-founder of Mozart for Munchkins, and her co author and father Mort Sherman has held senior positions in education in the States, and is a founding member of Public Schools for Tomorrow. He also serves on the Goldie Hawn Foundation board, a charity set up to equip children with social and emotional skills through education programmes.
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Episode 50: [50] Advocating for music education – with Dr Anita Collins
04/09/2025 Duración: 49minMy first ever guest, and music education advocacy superstar, Dr Anita Collins, returns in the 50th episode of my podcast. Anita describes herself as an educator, researcher and writer in the field of brain development and music learning - but she is so much more than that. We discuss her work in advocating for music education, and focus in on practical ways to win hearts and minds for music.
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Episode 49: [49] Contemporary urban music in schools and beyond – with Prof. Pam Burnard, Dr Pete Dale & Dr Raphael Travis
07/08/2025 Duración: 41minIn this episode I’m joined by some of the team at CUMIN – the contemporary urban music for inclusion network: Dr Pete Dale, Professor Pam Burnard, and Dr Raphael Travis from the universities of York, Cambridge and Texas State University. The network is for anyone working through music with young people in genres like hip-hop, grime, EDM, house and more. We discuss the challenges of measuring impact, the need for multiple and participant-led methods in evaluation. We also discuss the book 'Music for Inclusion and Healing in Schools and Beyond'.
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Episode 48: PODCAST [48] Growing a trauma-informed creative organisation with Jenny Young of Blue Cabin
10/07/2025 Duración: 40minIn this episode I talk with Jenny Young, Director and founder of Blue Cabin, a charity based in the north East of England that strengthen relationships between care-experienced individuals and the people in their lives through creative activities. We talk about how Blue Cabin has grown, touching on developing practitioners, growing income streams, working with local authorities and adoption/fostering agencies, and evaluation.
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Episode 47: [47] One way to solve the arts framing problem?
26/06/2025 Duración: 10minIn this second mini podcast, I want to quickly touch on framing again, but this time, thinking about long-term, systemic solutions. But perhaps not in the way you might imagine. Because at a time when support for the arts from politicians in the UK doesn’t seem to be improving, I think we have a massive opportunity. It’s an opportunity to make a systemic shift our arts CPD and support system, a shift in focus that will enable us to · Change perceptions about the work we do, and why it matters. · To make sure the arts, music and culture are properly valued and embedded in public policy as a means to improve our society and our lives. EDIT: With apologies for the error: audience development in the arts is 35 years old, not 25 years. It still seems like yesterday to me!
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Episode 46: [46] Do the arts, culture and music have a framing problem? With Anita Holford
16/05/2025 Duración: 17minIn this short episode, I’m talking with … myself! In a change to the usual format, I’m sharing some thoughts on how we talk about why arts, culture and music matter. I touch on framing, messaging and decision science, and I mention organisations and individuals that can help, and are worth following.
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Episode 45: [45] Evaluating and communicating impact: the key to resilience - with Adam Joolia, CEO, AudioActive
07/03/2025 Duración: 43minHow did a youth music charity go from moments of almost giving up, to being core funded by Arts Council England, and respected by commissioners/funders in public health and youth justice? Listen in on my chat about resilience with Adam Joolia, CEO of AudioActive, the brilliant Sussex charity that uses music as a tool for social change, education, and personal development with young people.
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Episode 44: PODCAST [44] A rich music education ecology – with Dr Ally Daubney, researcher & John Bergin, Newham Music
08/01/2025 Duración: 38minIn this episode, I talk with Dr Ally Daubney, educator, researcher, evaluator and author and John Bergin, CEO of Newham Music, one of the partners in the East London Music Alliance music education hub. Following 5 years of research into participation, professional development, progression and sustainability in music education, they’ve developed a model for what they term a ‘rich music education ecology’.
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Episode 43: PODCAST [43] Music education research, social justice and public engagement – with Erin Johnson-Williams and Caz Creagh
25/11/2024 Duración: 34minIn this episode, I talk with Erin Johnson-Williams and Caz Creagh from the Arts & Humanities Research Council - Hub for Public Engagement with Music Research. The hub is part of the Centre for Music Education and Social Justice at Southampton University. It aims to connect music education research to real-world settings, and to fund research that informs government policy to have a lasting impact on people and music across the UK.
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Episode 42: PODCAST [42] Drumming research with young people and world-famous rock musicians - Professor Marcus Smith, Clem Burke Drumming Project
25/09/2024 Duración: 37minIn this episode, I talk with Professor Marcus Smith, who is co-founder of the Clem Burke Drumming project, based at Chichester University which is researching the physical, mental and health benefits of drumming. Marcus co-founded the project with Dr Clem Burke, who is the drummer with Blondie; and Professor Steve Draper of Hartpury University. We discuss the research, including the impact of drumming for young people with additional needs including those who are autistic.
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Episode 41: PODCAST [41] Running a community music organisation - with Nikki-Kate Heyes MBE, founder, soundLINCS
22/08/2024 Duración: 38minIn this episode, I talk withNikki-Kate Heyes MBE, who was the founder, and until recently, CEO of soundLINCS, a community music organisation that’s been working with people from all walks of life through music, for 26 years. We talk about the development of the organisation, the health and direction of the community music sector, and Nikki-Kate gives her three tips for survival and resilience.
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Episode 40: [40] Evidencing music education’s impact using local authority & music service data - with James Dickinson, Head of Hull Music Service and hub lead
01/07/2024 Duración: 31minIn this episode, I talk with James Dickinson, head of Hull Music Service, which is part of the local authority and also lead for the new music education hub covering Hull, East Riding, north and northeast Lincolnshire. We discuss how the music service is partnering with the local authority to use data to explore the impact of music on attainment. We also discuss how the service is using an annual impact report to engage partners, supporters and staff with the bigger picture around their value and impact.
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Episode 39: PODCAST [39] Music, positive youth development, and academic partnerships, with Professor Beatriz Ilari, University of Southern California
06/06/2024 Duración: 33minIn this episode, I talk with Beatriz Ilari, a Professor at the Center for Music, Brain and Society at the University of Southern California, Los Angeles. We discuss a 10-year study looking at the impact of music and sports programmes for young people; and a short study using an evaluation method and approach to teaching called Positive Youth Development. We also discuss how academic researchers and music educators might connect to work in partnership.
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Episode 38: PODCAST [38] A new music and leadership course driven by young people’s musical passions, with James McPherson
08/05/2024 Duración: 19minIn this episode, I talk with James McPherson, Managing Director of Music Leaders UK, a new music course and award for secondary school age students. The downturn in numbers of young people pursuing music in schools and other settings is a worrying trend, particularly in the UK. The award aims to address this, by acknowledging learners’ own musical passions and interests while also developing their interpersonal and leadership skills.
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Episode 37: PODCAST [37] Music, healing and activism with Ami Gaston of the International Cultural Arts & Healing Sciences Institute
18/01/2023 Duración: 38minA hate crime and a near death experience caused Ami Gaston to re-evaluate her life and future. She now works internationally to promote healing and wellbeing through music and activism. She’s worked with refugees and families through organisations such as the US government and the United Nations. She also has a great story to tell about performing for the Dalai Lama.
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Episode 36: PODCAST [36] Routes into the music industry with Dr Oliver Morris, UK Music; and Serona Elton, University of Miami and the Mechanical Licensing Collective
18/11/2022 Duración: 44minIn this episode, I talk with Serona Elton, from the University of Miami and the Mechanical Licensing Collective; and Dr Oliver Morris, Head of Education and Skills at UK Music. We talked about their routes into the music industry, and the challenges and opportunities for young people – and their families - wanting to understand what roles they could pursue in music.