Tech Policy Grind

In this episode of Tech Policy Grind, the conversation delves into the significant antitrust case against Google led by the US Department of Justice. The discussion covers the historical context of antitrust actions, the proposed remedies aimed at breaking Google’s monopoly, and the implications for competition in the tech industry. Joe Jerome from DuckDuckGo provides insights into the complexities of the case, the importance of technical expertise in enforcement, and the potential impact on consumers and the future of AI development. The episode concludes with reflections on the global regulatory landscape and the ongoing nature of the legal proceedings. This episode was recorded on November 22, 2024 and is being published ahead of Google’s response, which comes out on December 20, 2024. 

Today on the Tech Policy Grind: Our editor, Evan, bids the show farewell for his new role in corporate privacy compliance. He chats with Pedro Pavon, a privacy attorney at Meta, about what it means to be an advocate on the corporate side, how birding can help us maintain a beginners mindset, and how Pedro launched the Data Protection Breakfast Club. Pedro is a lawyer and policy advocate focused on digital privacy, data strategy, and algorithmic fairness. He hosts the Data Protection Breakfast Club podcast and teaches privacy law at Georgia State University College of Law.  

This week, we’re sharing two conversations from State of the Net that discuss the importance of responsible product design and ethical red teaming for AI. First, we chatted with Aishwarya Vardhana. As a full stack product designer, she designs innovative interfaces and experiences with safety, privacy, and other human rights considerations baked into the product. At State of the Net, when this conversation was recorded, she shared how she thinks about building ethical, inclusive and responsible technology, and how she prioritizes user needs to help keep people safe online. Then, we sat down with Harley Geiger, Counsel on Cybersecurity Services at Venable, about ethical AI redteaming. What is ethical AI redteaming? And how are redteamers protected under the law when they test out vulnerabilities of AI models? We get into that and much more the conversation with Harley, Foundry fellow Sasa Jovanovic and me during State of the Net. DISCLAIMER: Daniela, Evan, Sasa, Harley and Aishwarya engaged with this episode b

This week on the Tech Policy Grind, we’re sharing two conversations from State of the Net 2024, the premier internet policy conference that took place in February in Washington, D.C, to discuss the impact of AI on cybersecurity policy and the future of work.  Foundry Fellow Sasa Jovanovic and I spoke with Heather West and Charley Snyder on the impact of AI on cybersecurity policy. We discussed the nexus between Artificial Intelligence and cybersecurity, revealing how AI’s advancements carry both protective potential and novel vulnerabilities.  We also chatted with Dr. Athina Kanioura, Chief Strategy and Transformation Officer at PepsiCo, about navigating the policy challenges around the deployment of AI in the workplace, while making sure that AI promotes societal values and labor equity.  DISCLAIMER: Daniela, Evan, Sasa, Athina, Heather and Charley engaged with this episode by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on this sho

This week on the Tech Policy Grind, an expert panel unpacked the  two First Amendment cases heard by the Supreme Court last week. In 2021, Florida and Texas introduced laws to prevent social media companies from banning political candidates or censoring content based on viewpoints, sparking a debate about the balance between free speech and platform regulation.  The Supreme Court hearing on February 26, 2024 on the Florida and Texas laws set the stage for a broader conversation on the First Amendment rights of social media companies.  To comment on the recent hearings, we brought in Internet Law and Policy Foundry alumna Jess Miers, Senior Counsel at Chamber of Progress to moderate a conversation with two other experts: Vidushi Dyall, Director Legal Analysis at Chamber of Progress who was reporting from the courtroom last week and Eric Goldman, the Associate Dean for Research, Professor of Law, Co-Director of the High Tech Law Institute, and Co-Supervisor of the Privacy Law Certificate, at Santa Clara Un

Welcome to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry!  In this episode, Foundry Fellow Katelyn Ringrose sat down with Jay Stanley, Senior Policy Analyst, at the ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project, to discuss Jay’s work on aerial surveillance law and policy, with a spotlight on the work that the ACLU is doing to keep you safe from eyes in the sky. While these two drone on about aerial surveillance (no pun intended), check out some of the resources listed below. This episode will be part of a mini-series on surveillance law and policy with some amazing future guests, so thank you for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! DISCLAIMER: Katelyn engaged with this episode by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions they are affiliated with. Bios: Jay Stanley started working on privacy and technology issues at the ACLU five w

Welcome back to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! To kick off Season Five, the Tech Policy Grind is bringing you to State of the Net 2024 Live!  On February 12, 2024 officials from the executive and legislative branches joined internet and tech advocates in Washington, D.C. to discuss topics such as child online safety, AI regulation and governance, internet access and affordability, the legal and regulatory landscape on online expression, and more. In this episode, we put together three conversations from our live recording at the conference. Foundry alum Lama Mohammed chatted with Jameson Spivack, Senior Policy Analyst, Immersive Technologies at Future of Privacy Forum on the challenges of balancing progress and privacy when it comes to neurotechnologies. Then Senior Foundry fellows Sasa Jovanovic and Daniela Guzman Peña sat down with Colin Crowell, the Senior Advisor & Managing Director of The Blue Owl Group to discuss how internet geopolitics and diplomacy wi

This final episode of the Tech Policy Grind season 4 stars Class Four Internet Law & Policy Foundry Fellows Meri Baghdasaryan, Lama Mohammed, and Reema Moussa one last time before their fellowship with The Foundry ends in January. In this episode, the fellows reflect on the highlights of 2023, including the growth of the podcast, the Foundry's participation in the State of the Net, and our renowned Trivia Night. Meri, Lama, and Reema share their 2024 plans, and some of the Class Four Fellow's favorite memories at The Foundry, including a star feature from Joseph Catapano. Listeners will also get a sneak peek into Season 5 from the show's new co-executive producers, Class Five Fellows Evan Enzer and Daniela Guzmán Peña. Finally, thank you to our Class Four Fellows for all of your valuable contributions to the Tech Policy Grind and to the Foundry! Resources in this episode: State of the Net 2023 ICANN IAPP Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newslette

This week, Meri Baghdasaryan sits down with Reema Moussa, the host and producer of this podcast. Reema is currently a third-year J.D. Candidate at the USC Gould School of Law focused on cybersecurity, privacy, internet governance, trust & safety, and other tech law and policy issues. In this episode, Meri takes Reema through an introspective conversation about Reema's journey as a law student and an ILPF Fellow, as the fellowship (and her time in law school) comes to an end. In addition, Reema reflects on her path to internet law and policy, starting with a formative college internship at the International Telecommunication Union in Geneva, which sparked her interest in international law, AI policy, and cyberwarfare. She then explains how she has found a niche at the nexus of cybersecurity & privacy, trust & safety, business, and the law over the last several years. Then, Meri and Reema get into her experience as a Foundry fellow and executive board member. She also highlights some of her other

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind podcast! This week, Reema chats with Keir Lamont (Future of Privacy Forum) and Divya Sridhar (BBB National Programs) on the core 2023 privacy law updates you need to know. They cover updates since Keir was on the show last year discussing his 5 key predictions for 2023 - including how those predictions panned out, what actually happened, and what's coming up in 2024. As the Director of Privacy Initiatives at BBB National Programs, Divya’s portfolio encompasses the design, development and launch of multiple industry self-regulation privacy programs. She is a seasoned leader who previously served in numerous capacities at think tanks, private companies, and nonprofits leading government affairs and policy work. Keir Lamont (CIPP/US) is the Director of the Future of Privacy Forum’s U.S. Legislation team. In this role he supports research and independent analysis concerning federal, state, and local consumer privacy laws and regulations. Keir previously held positions at

Welcome back to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! This week, Reema gets “meta” by chatting with other podcasters to give a behind-the-scenes look into the world of tech policy podcast production. She chatted with Angelique Carson, host of The Privacy Beat podcast, Nicole Dove, host of the Urban Girl Corporate World podcast, and Noah Katz, host of the Careers in Data Privacy podcast. The podcast pros get into discuss how they launched their podcasts and what they’ve learned as podcast hosts. They also discuss their careers in the privacy, cybersecurity, and tech policy space.  About the podcasters: Angelique Carson is a longtime privacy journalist. After working in Maine’s local media, she spent 11 years reporting on privacy at the IAPP. There, she served as the editor of The Privacy Advisor, a monthly publication. In 2016, she launched the first-ever privacy podcast by the same name. Now Director of Content Strategy at TerraTrue, a privacy-by-design software startup, s

Welcome back to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! This week, Reema chats with Marcela Mattiuzzo and Nathalie Fragoso, Partners at VMCA Advogados, on Brazilian privacy law and regulatory policy updates. They dive into recent activity from Brazil's data protection authority (the ANPD), and the history of the LGPD. They also cover how regulatory control of Artificial Intelligence is shaping up. Marcela Mattiuzzo is partner at VMCA in the areas of data protection and competition law. She holds a PhD and a Masters from the University of São Paulo. Previously, she was a Visiting Fellow at the Information Society Project at Yale University. In addition, she worked as advisor and chief of staff to the President of the Brazilian competition authority. Nathalie Fragoso is a partner at VMCA in the area of data protection and technology as well, with a special focus on internet regulation. She is also a Professor at Insper. Previously, she has been the Head of Research on Priv

Welcome back to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! This episode, Foundry Fellows Reema Moussa, Lama Mohammed, and Joe Catapano cover some of the latest headlines in tech policy. They cover the latest updates in the Federal Trade Commission's case against the data broker Kochava, the DOJ's antitrust case against Google, and the reauthorization of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). They also cover some global updates on AI regulation, from the White House's AI executive order to the Global AI Safety Summit. Finally, Reema wraps up with coverage on Meta's new political advertising disclosure policy around AI-generated content coinciding with new EU rules on targeted political ads for Big Tech. Resources Referenced and Further Readings Aids: Data Brokers, Ad-Tech, and the Civil Liberties at Stake with Justin Sherman [S4E27] FTC v. Kochava and What’s Next for the FTC’s Section 5 Unfairness Authority Unsealed amended complaint in FTC v.

Welcome back to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! In this episode, Senior Fellow Lama Mohammed interviews Katie Harbath, CEO and Founder of Anchor Change on election security misinformation. With 2024 setting out to be “tsunami” year of elections, Lama and Katie dive deep into definitions, misinformation around election infrastructure. Then, they get into the role of AI in disinformation, rebuilding trust between public users, technologists, government, and the media, and more. Anchor Change is a consulting organization developing solutions at the intersection of tech, policy, and business. They focus on global issues related to democracy, elections, and civic engagement online. You also can connect with Katie on LinkedIn and Twitter, or by subscribing to her newsletter “Anchor Change with Katie Harbath.” Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! Resources Referenced and Further Readings Aids: “Mis-, Dis-, and Malinformation Planning and Incide

This week, host Reema Moussa catches up with three Class 5 fellows Evan Enzer, Zia Mohammad, and Daniela Guzman Peña. Evan Enzer is the editor of the Tech Policy Grind podcast and a consultant focused on privacy law compliance and operations. Zia is a technologist working as a product manager for Amazon Web Services in quantum computing. Daniela is a co-producer of the Tech Policy Grind podcast, former journalist, and working on policy development and stakeholder engagement at a tech platform. We caught up with these three fellows to hear more about their diverse careers in tech policy and what they’ve been working on during their first year with the Foundry.  Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! DISCLAIMER: Evan, Zia, and Daniela engage with the Foundry voluntarily and in their pe

This week Class 4 Fellow and Fellow Highlights series host Meri Baghdasaryan sits down with Dyllan Brown-Bramble, who is a Class 4 fellow and leads Foundry’s Annual Policy Hackathon Committee. Dyllan is an associate at a global law firm where he practices privacy and cybersecurity law. He also serves as a Junior Board Member for the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project (S.T.O.P.). Dyllan graduated from Georgetown University Law Center in 2018 where he was a Technology Law and Policy Scholar and before that he graduated from Rutgers University in 2014. Meri and Dyllan chat about Dyllan’s path into privacy and cybersecurity, skills needed to be a successful lawyer in this field, and Dyllan’s activities at the Foundry. Dyllan highlights the importance of being curious, learning continuously and remembering that collaboration will take you further, than competition.  Resources mentioned in the episode: IAPP  Newsletter TechCrunch Fortune - Data Sheet and Eye On A.I. Georgetown Center Privacy &am

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind Podcast by the Internet Law and Policy Foundry! On this week’s episode, Evan Enzer, an ILPF fellow and car-centric SoCal Native, met up with Adonne Washington (Future of Privacy Forum) and Andrea Amico (Privacy4Cars) to cover our introduction to vehicle privacy, a fast-emerging market in the broader privacy law and policy profession. They get into Andrea’s new project, VehiclePrivacyReport.com; FPF’s excellent introductory resources; Mozilla’s latest edition of Privacy Not Included; and the California Privacy Protection Agency’s (CPPA’s) auto company enforcement sweep. The trio also briefly mentions Evan’s Wiretaps on Wheel’s whitepaper. These resources should be enough to bring us up to speed (puns always intended) on car privacy. Resources Referenced Future of Privacy Forum’s infographics and material on connected cars: https://fpf.org/blog/infographic-data-connected-car-version-1-0/. Privacy4Cars’ Vehicle Privacy Report: https://vehicleprivacyreport.com/report/. Moz

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind Podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! This week’s episode is all about queer privacy. Foundry Fellow Katelyn Ringrose chats with Cobun Zweifel-Keegan (IAPP) and Vinny DiGilio (Grindr) about privacy issues impacting the queer community. They get into what queer privacy means to them, and why digital equity is so critical for LGBTQ+ people, most especially, youth. Then, Cobun and Vinny discuss what it means to be part of two, sometimes intersecting identities, as queer privacy professionals, and how their advocacy on behalf of their community impacts their work on the day-to-day.  Plus, LGBT Tech chimes in to discuss some of their policy work, and how to support bridging the digital divide.  Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! Resources Referenced: LGBT Tech Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundryp

This week, Reema sits down with Justin Sherman, CEO of Global Cyber Strategies, to talk all things data brokers. They cover the ad-tech ecosystem, the past, current, and future of federal and state-level regulation on data brokers, and what the data brokerage industry means for civil liberties. They then dig deep into recent FTC action, including the implications of FTC v. Kochava, the California DELETE Act, and what might be coming down the pipeline in data broker regulation - including the CFPB's latest action on data brokers. Justin's consulting firm, Global Cyber Strategies, is a Washington, DC-based research and advisory firm. Justin is also a senior fellow at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy, where he leads its data brokerage research project and lectures on cybersecurity, privacy, and technology policy. In addition, he is a nonresident fellow at the Atlantic Council. He's also a contributing editor at Lawfare, an op-ed columnist at Slate Magazine, and a fellow at Stanford Starling

This week Class 4 Fellow and Fellow Highlights series host Meri Baghdasaryan sits down with Grant Versfeld. Grant is Co-Vice President for the Foundry’s current E-Board and is a Threat Intelligence Engineer at a major tech company. He recently graduated from Tufts University with a degree in Computer Science, where he specialized in cybersecurity and technology policy. As a student, he served as a Teaching Assistant for Dr. Susan Landau at the Fletcher School and interned with the Center for Democracy and Technology. In his spare time, Grant volunteers with an organization that provides security and privacy services to survivors of intimate partner violence. Meri and Grant chat about threat intelligence, Grant’s work with CDT and at the Foundry. Then, they reflect on the importance of interdisciplinary approach and collaboration in tech policy and beyond.  Resources mentioned in the episode: Cybercon 2022 CETA (Clinic to End Tech Abuse)  CDT’s Techsplanations  Check out the Foundry on Instagram, T