Cider Chat

Celebrate with The Nose and I, as we chat on our fall trip to see cidermakers in the Netherlands and France and reflect over an amazing year of 52 podcasts promoting cider and perry around the world. I've posted "semi" exact times within this episode for mini clips from specific episodes, so you can scroll forward for specific chat mentions. 8:20-9:05 049: Agathe Letellier | Manoir d'Apreval, France 9:55-10:32 048: Heleen Noble & Eelco Huizinga |Appels en Peren, Amsterdam, NL 12:04 - 13:34   002: Wouter Bijl | CiderCider, Rotterdam, NL 17:04 - 17:19 004-Dave White/Nick Gunn Washington & Oregon Cidermaking Trends,  USA 17:50 - 19:14  005: A visit from President John Adams for the Thanks Podcasting spoof and promo 19:37 - 20:16 006 Paul Zocco | Cidermaker of the Year 12x! 13:42 -13:54 001: Field Maloney | West County Cider, MA 20:23 - 20:29 007: David Cordtz | Sonoma Cider, CA 20:45 - 21:30 008: Cider Team | Les Vergers de la Colline, Quebec 25:19 - 32:38 Eric Bordelet, France - this episode will go liv

Follow this podcast on Twitter @ciderchat Marie Tanaka is the owner of WineStyles Co., Ltd who along with Tsukasa Ono organized the largest cider fest in Japan to date called the Tokyo Cider Collection. The event was held this year on August 2nd and about 300 people attended with over 70 different types of ciders.   Marie says that they are already looking at a larger venue for next year’s event.      These two organizers chatted about the growing Japanese cider scene and the current cider drinker in Tokyo. Mr. Ono is the son of an orchardist and shares his perspective on the two apple growing regions:   Nagano Prefecture Aomori Prefecture   Japanese cider makers use both the French spelling for cider “cidre” and use French cidermaking techniques as well.   Marie described 4 types of cidermakers in Japan. brewery cooperatives winery orchards   The Nagano Prefecture apple committee sets the standard for the ciders that get the “Geographical Indications” or GI 100% apple in Nagano bottle fermented tank f

Follow on twitter @ciderchat   Didier Bédu President of the Interprofession des Appellations Cidricoles (I.D.A.C.) for France speaks on the organization's criteria for the highly sought after appellation for Calvados and Pommeau. There are 320 producers of Calvados, with a 28 member board who then elect the president. There are the Appellation d'Origine Controlee (AOC) regions for Calvados. Calvados Pays d'Auge Calvados Domfrontais For Pommeau there are three AOC regions.   1. Pommeau du Brittany 2. Pommeau du Normandy 3. Pommeau du Maine   For Cider or Cidre as spelled in France there is now three Appellation d'Origine Protégée AOP / AOC regions. The third region just attained status in June 2016. 1. Pays d' Auge (Normandy) 2. Cornouaille ( Britiany) 3. Contentin (Northwest Normandy)   For Perry there is one AOC - Poire Domfront Besides the long and lengthy process of attaining approval for the appellation Dider presented 3 main criteria for an AOC.   1. The Territory - can only do Calvados in a specific t

Are you a cider fan? Then follow this podcast on twitter @ciderchat In this chat: Agathe Letellier is making cider, pommeau and calvados at her cidery Manoir d'Apreval in Pennedepie in Normandy, France. It is a coastal cidery just south of the port town of Honfleur. She describes it as a family domain that originally has farm animals, but when she arrived at the domain 18 years ago, she took the operation full on as an cidery. Her passion and conviction towards quality products for both her cider, calvados and pommel and her meals that are made for bus tour can be heard in this chat. What is in this chat? Agathe and I discuss the Normandy appellation for cider and if Brittany is included? Her ciders. The cider scene in France   Agathe says on being a cidermaker, "It is a very lively product! If you want to sleep well, don't make cider. If you want to be cool, don't make cider."   What is Mout? Fresh pressed apple juice When to visit? April to the end of September Afterwards the cidermakers are full on picki

Appels en Perren is the first retail store in Amsterdam selling only Apple and Pear products from the Netherlands and European countries such as France, Germany and the UK. In this week's chat we speak with Heleen Nobel & Eelco Huzinga two of the proprietors of this wonderful spot where you can get your apple and pear on. It is an easy Tram ride from Amsterdam Centraal Train Station. Take Tram 4 or Tram 9 which you will find to your left as you step out of Amsterdam Centraal. If you can't find the Tram stop? Walk directly across the street from Centraal Station (don't cross the canal) and find the Tourist Information Center. Here you can buy Tram tickets, if you can't find the Tram ticket kiosks in Centraal Station. Once on the Tram no need to get off until the Rembrandtplein. The Rembrandtplein is a large green square surrounded by restaurants and coffeeshops of all types. Once off the Tram keep the square (Rembrandtpein) to your right. You will be walking in the same direction that the Tram just left y

Simultaneous cider events! Oh My! In this chat I provide insider tips on: The 2016 CiderDays Schedule, held in Franklin County Massachusetts on the first week of November since 1994 Where to buy cider Where to find bulk sweet cider for sale - Bring you barrels Is this family friendly? You bet! Ticket events Free events Places and people you do not want to miss Link to download you CiderDays schedule for 2016 now! Listen to episode 046: Going to CiderDays | Massachusetts - providing tips on where to stay, where to pick up cidermaking supplies along the way and off the beaten tips for walks. Cider Chat epsiodes mentioned on this chat 003: Robert Colnes | Building a Ciderhouse The 2016 CiderDays is dedicated to Robert who passed away this spring. 016: John Bunker | Super Chilly Farm, Maine 028: John Bunker | Apple Identification I will be tweeting via @ciderchat and chatting more about events as we roll up to CiderDays 2016 Extra tidbits not on the schedule but mentioned on this chat November 4th a live record

With a bit of history on the oldest Cider Fest in the US held the 1st weekend of November CiderDays (yes it has always been spelled as one word) was founded in 1994, by Judith and Terry Maloney or West County Cider in Colrain, Massachusetts. Listen to their son West County's cidermaker in 001: Field Maloney | West County Cider, MA USA CiderDays is always held on the first weekend of November. For many years, it was a one day event. It took a few years, but before we knew it CiderDays became a two days and then three days. This podcast chat provides insider tips on traveling to CiderDays, places to stay, where to get cider and off beaten tips for this region. 047: Attending CiderDays provides info 2016's  schedule, that chat goes live on September 21, 2016. Where you can get supplies to make your own cider or buy cider to take home. Tip: Place your order for cider supplies now - especially yeast! Beerology this is a brand new store and it will be open by CiderDays 2016 (Northampton, MA) Beer and Wine Making Su

Dr John Cline and Derek Plotkowski chat the study of pomes, i.e., Pomology and their current research on cider apples. They are based at the University of Guelph in Ontario Canada.   The Ontario Craft Cider Association approach Dr. Cline looking for access to cider varieties and to get an understanding of how they would grow in Canada. Look at the horticultural aspects of growing these cider varieties in Canada, such as; How productive are they? What might be the issues facing the cider apple trees selected? How to they work with the root stock M9? What are their disease and insect susceptibility? How prone are they to winter injury in Canada? The results of this research and starting data should begin to show preliminary information in 2017. Says Dr. Cline, "In Canada apples are second to blueberries in terms of fruit crops. In terms of tree crops they are number 1" What is the difference between a young tree vs an older tree?  Between 1-4 years, the fruit is softer and apples do not store as well The go

Flag Hill Farm makers of what they call Vermont Organic Hard Cider, is fully off the grid, certified organic, are makers of both cider and Pomme-de-vie AND I bet you haven't heard of it! So join me in this intimate conversation with the cidermaker, Sebastian Lousada as we discuss his journey to cider and the products he makes today! Sebastian originally hails from the UK, but he has been making cider before 1984. Back then they planted 50 standard trees the first year, just wanting to have apples. As they were living on top of Flag Hill a high mountain location, they decided to plant 100 more trees in 1989. Being certified organic encouraged he and his wife Sabra Ewing to begin selling cider. In 1990, they became bonded as a winery. Sebastian mentions that back then people had no idea what cider was or that it even had alcohol in it. Thus they decided to spell their product as Cyder, with a "Y" to differentiate it from other products. Flag Hill's ciders are available in VT, MA and throughout New England. "On

Colin Davis is the lead ciderman at Shacksbury, a cidery based in northern Vermont in the town of Shoreham. Shacksbury was incorporated in 2013 and began selling ciders in 2014. Unlike many new startups that focus locally, the decision was made early on, to sell broadly.   The immediate success of Shacksbury can be credited to both Colin Davis and his business partner David Dolginow. They hit the road running by creating a formidable team with the likes of Simon Day from the UK's Once Upon a Tree and Ainara Otaño, a Basque cider maker from Petritegi . The Basque collaboration with Ainara is now bottled in Spain.  Shacksbury's Arlo, Farmhouse and Classic ciders are all blended with a Spanish base cider and their own Vermont cider. There is also a base blend that is pre fermented in the UK and shipped to the US.  Simon and Colin work with the Dragon Orchard in England, a 40 acre orchard and decide together what apples go in the base cider. Don't be fooled into thinking that this is all imported cider. Sunrise O

Jennifer Smith the Executive Director of New York Cider Association and Sara Grady Founder of NY Cider Week discuss the state's commitment to cider and upcoming events. I sat down for a chat with these two women who are cider beacons for the Empire State. We were all attending Cider Feast 2016 a Food Karma Project created by restauranteur and all around good guy and one of my picks for NYC's Best of the Best Publicans around award Jimmy Carbone of Jimmy's No. 43. CiderFeast was held alongside the East River near the upper East Village. We sat on three chairs with a bottle of Bone Dry Cider from the Brooklyn Cider House. With cups in hand we kept on talking through the noise of a biplane taking off on the river besides us and the sounds of the city. The New York Cider Association is comprised of a 9 member board. The members are growers, cidermakers and work on a sustainable farming culture. The New York Cider Association is a non for profit.  It has memberships for cideries producing between: 1 and 5K Gallon

Emily Ritchie is the Executive Director of the Northwest Cider Association a region covering Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and British Columbia.  This region's cider scene is on fire and growing! The Northwest Cider Association was formed in 2010. The following Washington State cideries listed below initially kick started the Association. Tieton Cider Works Whitewood Cider Snow Drift Cider Alpinefire Cider Finnriver Farm & Cidery Eaglemount Wine & Cider Methow Valley Ciderhouse Westcott Bay Cider, one of the oldest cideries in the state Soon after Oregon cideries began joining and now the current list of cideries is around 300 members and growing! Emily's Background Emily has deep roots to the UK via her father who is from England. After a trip to Herefordshire she returned to the US with an even greater drive to get involved in her region's cider scene. She was most recently the Program Manager at the Association for a year and a half and then moved into the Executive Director position when t

Quebrada del Chucao is a family owned cidery in Villarica (vee aree-ka), a village located in southern Chile. The Nahrwold family along with cousin Diego Rivera have been making cider commercially since 2012. Villarica is located approximately 746 kilometers/463 miles south of the capital of Santiago. In view of the town is a volcano that Diego will describe during this chat as active and illuminated at night "very mystical with lots of local lore'. Says Diego on making cider at the base of the Villarrica volcano. "We can't do much if the volcano explodes, apart from running"   Diego helped me interpret and understand the cidery's name; Quebrada means a water creek. And Chucao is a small hopping bird (it doesn't fly) that stays on the forest floor. Look at the label on Quebrada del Chucao's cider below. Diego is a winemaker full time and heads to Villarica once or twice a month to check the cider. The cidery sits on his Uncle Jorge Nahrwold farm. His son Matías Nahrwold, is Diego's cousin and they work togeth

Andreas Sundgren's Brännland Cider specialty is iscider (ice cider). He has won multiple awards and follows traditional techniques that are "true to the quality denomination of Quebec". He reached out to renown American ice cidermaker Eleanor Leger of Eden Cider of Newport Vermont, crediting her for helping him understand the makings of ice cider. Based in Sweden, Andreas uses cryoconcentration - which is where the apple juice pre-fermentation is frozen to separate the water from the juice. The juice is then racked (siphon) out of the frozen mass of water and then fermented. Contact for Brännland Ciders Website: http://www.brannlandcider.se/ Email: andreas@brannlandcider.se  Telephone: +46 70 345 85 95 Address: Renmarkstorget 8, Umeå Sweden Facebook: facebook.com/brannlandcider Notables mentioned in this chat Christian Barthomeuf Quebec ice cidermaker Eric Bordolet French cidermaker Domaine Dupont French cidery Randall Grahm listen to 012: Randall Grahm | Bonny Doon Vineyard, CA   Find the full show notes

Stem Cider was started by Eric Foster and Phil Kao, Michigan natives who founded their urban cidery in Denver Colorado. Since opening in 2014, they have already been awarded a bevy of cider medals at the Great Lakes International Cider and Perry Competition (GLINTCAP) see list below. Stem brings apple and "single strength" juice in from Colorado's western Slope towns of Paonia,Hotchkiss, and as well as the state of  Michigan and the Pacific Northwest. 10 GLINTCAP Awards 2016 for Stem Ciders  • Le Chene - Silver/Wood Aged Cider and Perry • Whiskey Barrel Aged Apricot - Silver/Wood Aged Cider and Perry • Banjo - Bronze/Wood Aged Cider and Perry • Perry - Bronze/Wood Aged Cider and Perry • Crabby Neighbor Bronze / New World Cider - Modern • L’acier Bronze / New World Cider - Modern • Winesap Bronze / New World Cider - Modern • Branch & Bramble Bronze/Fruit • Remedy Silver/ Hopped|Herbal Cider Visit or contact Stem Ciders • Website: www.stemciders.com/ • Address: 2811 Walnut St #150 | Denver, CO 80205 • Telep

Tim Larsen was at the all day event, Pour the Core in Brooklyn, NYC waiting on a long line of thirsty cider drinkers. During a the break between sessions I was able to squirrel away with Tim in a back corner of the Brooklyn Expo Center and chat Snowdrift ciders and their perry.   In this chat Tim and I discuss: Snowdrift Ciders - see below the 9 ciders that recently all won awards in April of 2016. cidermaking components such as, anthocyanin pigments generate the rose hue in rosé cider during cidermaking. polyphenolics in cider Procyanins - are members of the proanthocyanidin (or condensed tannins) class of flavonoids. Bittersharp ( low in tannin and high in acid) vs Bittersweet (high in tannin, low in acid and high in sugar) apples for cider 2016 GLINTCAP Awards for Snowdrift Ciders Barrel-aged Cornice 7.5% -  Old World Heritage/Best in Class Cornice - English Cider/Gold Reserve Perry - Tradtional Perry/Gold Red Cider 7.5% - New World Cider Modern/Silver Seckly Perry - New World Perry/Silver Sickled Pear

Shannon Edgar's new cidery in the historical Cider town of Sherborn Massachusetts is already winning awards! In spring of 2016, at Michigan's Great Lakes International Cider and Perry Competition (GLINTCAP) Stormalong Hard Cider took home 5 medals! Look at the bottom of the page for the listing. This chat begins with Shannon and Benjamin Roberts-Sano who works with Shannon creating their delicious ciders by discussing Sherborn's cider  history and the Holbrook Cider Mill (1890). The mill exported Holbrook's Champagne Cider to Great Britain, Denmark, Germany and Belgium and in the US as far as Texas and Nebraska. It was advertised as "The World's Largest Cider Mill" producing 1.25 million gallons of cider per year. The mill also invented and patented the Steam-Powered Cider Press (1871) and used sand to filter the cider to remove "impurities". The mill was the largest employer in the town. We then discuss the folklore hero A. B. Stormalong, who throw back barrels of cider like you and I drink pints. This sea f

Danielle von Scheiner is putting the "BIG" back into New York City's apple love, with her new cidery Big Apple Hard Cider. She began learning the science of fermentation at the age of 12 while helping her dad make wine. More recently she began experimenting with apples and then after a motorcycle accident (she was hit by a NY cab) she thought of the old saying "We all have two lives and the second one starts the moment you realize you only have one". From that point on she been going 'full throttle' into cidermaking. Where can you find Big Apple Hard Cider? As it is a new cidery, it is still rolling out as this podcast goes live in the month of June. I recommend asking for Big Apple at your favorite cider taps and stores and when you head to New York check the Big Apple website Big Apple Ciders mentioned in this chat? And do note that Danielle's makes ciders that are inspired by the people of New York City and its boroughs.  Brooklyn - inspired by a dear friend that Danielle speaks about on in this chat. This

Adam Krakowsk's new book Vermont Prohibition: Teetotalers, Bootleggers & Corruption (2016 Arcadia Press) carves out the state of Vermont's cider, beer, and spirits history in relationship to prohibition. Vermont Prohibition covers, the politics, policy, economics, religion and social impact that prohibition had on Vermont. Read about the Liquor Law of 1853 that targeted distilled spirits while conveniently protecting cider. 1880's to 1890s the term Hard Cider started being used in the law books. So was Hard Cider considered adulterated cider? The jury is out, but the verdict feels pretty close. In this chat Adam discusses: Why Vermont actually had 80 years of prohibition The Temperance movement The difference between ethanol alcohol and methanol alcohol How the law was written to help cider avoid prohibition NASCAR's ( National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing) relationship to prohibition Switchel  Adam Krakowski's book on Vermont Beer Adam also writes a bimonthly column for Yankee Brew News on Ve

This is Part 2 of the chat at Farnum Hill Cider. In this chat, we delve into tasting 7-ciders with the team at Farnum Hill Cider. Steve Woods, whom along with his wife Louisa D. Spencer founded Farnum Hill Ciders, first explains how this tasting, which takes place 3-4 times per week, is conducted. The descriptors fly, laughter follows and somehow despite tasting 7-ciders the team is able to stay on task and get their notes completed as they work towards perfecting their cider. We then head back up to the orchard with Nicole Leibon and Steve to finish our chat from last week. We explore terroir and discuss the cider market. Soon Louisa Spencer arrives to join in and Nicole heads home. This chat is a treasure trove of cider info and a front seat to a chat where we wrangle with what is currently going on with cider, how Farnum Hill is maneuvering the market and misconceptions on cider apples. Topics covered in this chat Will the cider market crash? What can we find out from the craft beer market? What defines F